Jan 15, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11
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#21
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Thats what Anet made teammates and heros for. They can snare just fine.
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Jan 15, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12
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#22
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Maryland
Guild: The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]
Profession: E/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
Thats what Anet made teammates and heros for. They can snare just fine.
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Well ok, speed boosts aren't THAT important in PvE, but who's gonna make you swing faster? Gonna buy lots of Essences of Celerity?
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Jan 15, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13
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#23
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wasting away again in Margaritaville
Guild: [HOTR]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
So every warriors ever needs IAS and Speed bost, or they are fail? Oh boy, why do I even bother with you people?
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There are very, very few exceptions. Your build is not one of them.
Warrior's endurance/mystic sweep bars don't need it because they already simulate an IAS, steady stance warriors don't need one because they already have a very, very powerful stance that makes up for it.
That's pretty much it.
If you're running a PvP build without a snare or a speed boost, you won't be killing anyone. All someone has to do is run around in circles to turn you into a harmless tin can.
This is not an issue of "mainstream vs free as a bird happy super fun independent thinker", this is an issue of "basic functionality vs. waste of space"
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Jan 15, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13
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#24
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Administrator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
So every warriors ever needs IAS and Speed bost, or they are fail? Oh boy, why do I even bother with you people?
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IAS definately, speed boost useful. IAS gets +50% base damage and +50% adrenaline, as well as being able to get spikes off quicker in PvP. There are no stances that take place over the IAS. Speed Boost is nice to chase kiters in PvP, in PvE it's just to break Flail, which is more of a convenience thing than anything else.
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Jan 15, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18
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#25
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...
Guild: Dark Alley [dR]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
So every warriors ever needs IAS and Speed bost, or they are fail? Oh boy, why do I even bother with you people?
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This here tells me you actually know very little about playing a warrior other than possible obs flesh tanking and being useless...
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Jan 15, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28
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#26
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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I don't obs flesh tank... I have never done a DoA run. I play for fun, I use builds I enjoy, that work well, and thats all you really need to know.
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Jan 15, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39
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#27
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
So every warriors ever needs IAS and Speed bost, or they are fail?
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Pretty much, actually.
Frenzy/Flail = 50% damage and adrenaline buff, alongside faster spikes.
Rush = the enemy can no longer negate 100% of your damage by pressing W.
No IAS is fail; no speed buff in PvP is mega fail.
There's all of... 2 half-decent builds which are exceptions; SS scythers and Warrior's Endurance hammer spammers; both of with rely on an elite stance. And the Endurance guy spams 3/4 and 1/2 attacks, faking an IAS
edit Gaahh.... Strangelove beat me to it
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Jan 15, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57
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#28
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2006
Guild: Lady Ainowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghostlyfenix
this build sucks should just run a cripslash or dslash
frenzy>flail>beserker
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true but u cant really put frenzy on hero and in pve right
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Jan 15, 2008, 11:45 PM // 23:45
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#29
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wasting away again in Margaritaville
Guild: [HOTR]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
edit Gaahh.... Strangelove beat me to it
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I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.
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Jan 15, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46
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#30
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: On Earth
Profession: W/P
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
So every warriors ever needs IAS and speed boost/snare, or they are fail? Oh boy, why do I even bother with you people?
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Because you are a "melee" character you are forced to get in close to do any sort of damage. Therefore mobility is a "melee" characters greatest weakest. If you can't catch your foe no matter how strong your skill bar is you are essentially no threat on the battlefield and thus you can be ignored while your opponents pound on your teammates. IAS increases your dmg and adrenline gain by 50%....that's a very significant increase. If you can't understand the basics of Warrior 101 I suggest you rethink your strategies. Then again if this is just for PvE, having Healsig + Frenzy and nothing else will still get you through the game. (you have 7 other players to make up for your flaws) I'm trying to help you understand the game. If you don't like my constructive criticism I can assure you that there are a lot less pleasant ways to get the point across.
Last edited by byteme!; Jan 16, 2008 at 12:10 AM // 00:10..
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Jan 16, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03
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#31
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
So every warriors ever needs IAS and Speed bost, or they are fail? Oh boy, why do I even bother with you people?
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Previous post makes the IAS point.
Speed boost... Let's see.
Target kites. You chase. Two people with nothing to do. What does that gain your team.
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Jan 16, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03
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#32
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.
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... the intern3t, a picture for any occaision!
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Jan 16, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37
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#33
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Ascalonian Squire
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By the way the whole healing hands/breeze/orision of healing wammo thing..
kind of old yeah?
Way to be original.
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Jan 16, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17
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#34
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KikiRae
By the way the whole healing hands/breeze/orision of healing wammo thing..
kind of old yeah?
Way to be original.
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Don't you know, this is Guild Wars guru, this is serious business, no room for originality.
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Jan 16, 2008, 02:26 AM // 02:26
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#35
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Southern California
Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV]
Profession: Me/Rt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
Don't you know, this is Guild Wars guru, this is serious business, no room for originality.
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Why does originality mean great, and conformity mean bad? (Btw originality doesn't mean bad either, i'm just making my point)
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Jan 16, 2008, 02:29 AM // 02:29
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#36
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Teenager with attitude
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
Don't you know, this is Guild Wars guru, this is serious business, no room for originality.
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Yeah, there are other sites for being a beautiful, unique snowflake. Here we like to talk about good builds.
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People are stupid.
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Jan 16, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37
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#37
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Yeah, there are other sites for being a beautiful, unique snowflake. Here we like to talk about good builds.
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yes the same 50 builds(Exaggeration), over and over and over and over again. I can see how exciting and wonderful that must make this place.
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Jan 16, 2008, 02:39 AM // 02:39
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#38
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Maryland
Guild: The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]
Profession: E/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
yes the same 50 builds(Exaggeration), over and over and over and over again. I can see how exciting and wonderful that must make this place.
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Well if losing is interesting for you...
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Jan 16, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42
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#39
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Southern California
Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV]
Profession: Me/Rt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KalleDamos
yes the same 50 builds(Exaggeration), over and over and over and over again. I can see how exciting and wonderful that must make this place.
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Answer my question, Mr Fail.
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Jan 16, 2008, 02:51 AM // 02:51
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#40
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Wark!!!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Florida
Profession: W/
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@OP:
I'd drop shield up and berserkers for Watch yourself and either flail or frenzy for staters. As others have mentioned, you'll also want to think about a speed boost. If you are planning on PvP, you'll have to make some more drastic changes... which means replacing quivering for either dragon slash or cripslash and bringing for greater justice. Plus dropping the self heal for a res.
It also looks like you are using a major rune which is generally a no-no.
@Kalle:
You've lost the battle, so listen to others who know a little more about the game than you do.
Last edited by Winterclaw; Jan 16, 2008 at 02:56 AM // 02:56..
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